Amir Hamza:
O Amr, the cleverest among tricksters! Iran has shown such an unparalleled spirit of resistance and sacrifice that it will be remembered for as long as the world exists. Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has proven that even in today’s age the passion of faith can confront the powerful with moral defeat. Salute to the bravery of the Iranian nation.
Amr Ayyar:
O master of the Qur’an, O my lord! This world does not stand upon morality; it stands upon material power. Iran has suffered a material defeat. The martyrdom of the Supreme Leader in the very first strike is evidence of Iran’s weak strategy. Wars are not fought with morals but with resources and preparation.
Amir Hamza:
O Ayyar, you have always thought negatively. Iran is still resisting today. Trump could neither change the regime nor break the resolve of the Iranian nation. Iran endured economic sanctions for many years and has fulfilled the right of resistance.
Amr Ayyar:
My lord! All of Iran’s proxies were eliminated one by one. Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Assad government in Syria, and the Houthis in Yemen — Israel finished them all. Iran’s turn had to come. You will see that the war will continue until a Supreme Leader acceptable to America comes to power in Iran.
Amir Hamza:
Amr Ayyar, leave this talk and accept reality. Iran has won and America has lost.
Amr Ayyar:
My lord! Step outside the moral world and look at the material world of today. Whatever President Trump wants is happening. He brought the president of Venezuela to America. He has sent Iran’s entire leadership to the next world. The heroes of fictional worlds are different, while reality is what we see before us. Iran has been shattered.
Amir Hamza:
O Amr, tell me this: Pakistan is the only Islamic country that is also a nuclear power. What should it do for its defense? Do not give any trickery — show the straight path.
Amr Ayyar:
O master of the Qur’an! Today’s world is the world of the clever and the shrewd; there is no place in it for the simple-minded. The immediate danger for Pakistan is the terrorists coming from the Taliban and Afghanistan. Pakistan destroyed the Bagram base and inflicted heavy losses on them. But until the anti-Pakistan Taliban government in Afghanistan changes, Pakistan will not be safe. The Northern Alliance is more sensible than the Taliban; they should be brought forward.
Amir Hamza:
O Amr, who are these Taliban? Pakistan nourished them for years and kept them close, yet after drinking Pakistan’s milk they came to bite it. They should have been grateful to Pakistan.
Amr Ayyar:
O Amir, O master of the Qur’an! They possess neither religious awareness nor civilizational awareness. They are still living centuries in the past. They have a deep religious and cultural contradiction with Pakistan. This contradiction can never be bridged. This issue will only be resolved through confrontation. Pakistan will have to firmly face these so-called religious clerics once and for all, otherwise they will keep destabilizing Pakistan.
Amir Hamza:
Amr, you always go to extremes. There must also be good people among the Taliban who advise their own people. Do they not know that if Pakistan can create them, it can also break them?
Amr:
O Amir, when a genie comes out of the bottle, it never goes back inside. The formula of good Taliban and bad Taliban has failed. They are all the same. The solution is that Pakistan should let them fight among themselves and withdraw. They have been fighting among themselves for centuries and will continue to do so. Just end the anti-Pakistan government there; the rest will happen by itself.
Amir Hamza:
O Amr, your mind leans more towards mischief and cunning. The Taliban and Pakistan are both Muslims and lived together for four decades. Why then such distance?
Amr Ayyar:
O Amir, once the Taliban gained power, arrogance entered their minds. They now want influence in Pakistan and ultimately wish to establish their rule there as well. They consider Pakistan’s governments to be un-Islamic.
Amir Hamza:
Strange indeed — they consider Hindu India their friend and Muslim Pakistan their enemy. It seems they will perish because of their own foolishness.
Amr Ayyar:
O Amir, I am amazed at Pakistan. Its army is powerful, yet its economy is under pressure because the routes are blocked from all sides. On one side there is India, on the other the Himalayas, and on the third Afghanistan blocking trade routes. If some warlord were to open the Wakhan route, Pakistan would gain trade access to Central Asia and could become a great center of commerce.
Amir Hamza:
O Amr, cunning has a short life. Not everything can happen according to the wish of one state. This is your childish and negative thinking.
Amr Ayyar:
Even so, Amir, Pakistan should at least think of its own benefit and try to open the Wakhan trade route.
Amir Hamza:
O wretched one, your mind always runs in the opposite direction. It seems all the wars and conflicts of the world are arranged by you.
Amr Ayyar:
My lord, today my mind is working, so I am giving advice to Pakistan — so that the only nuclear power of the Islamic world proceeds with wisdom and intelligence and does not bring destruction upon itself through foolishness like Iran. The real success is in defense: to preserve one’s strength until the moment of extreme necessity.
Amir Hamza:
O cunning man, tell me this: now that Pakistan has a defense agreement with Saudi Arabia, it will obviously have to be involved in the affairs of the Middle East.
Amr Ayyar:
My lord, if I speak the truth you may not like it. A country of wise people like Pakistan wasted four decades of its resources, wealth, and human lives in the rocky mountains of Afghanistan, and in return Pakistan received only stones. If you play with stones you get stones; if you trade in diamonds you receive diamonds. Afghanistan is full of stones, while the Middle East is full of diamonds. Pakistan should become active in the Middle East. Pakistan’s economic difficulties and the Middle East’s defense difficulties can be solved through cooperation and connections between these two regions. Pakistan needs to formulate a new strategy regarding the Middle East.
Amir Hamza:
O insolent one, Pakistan is full of wise people. That is why among 56 Islamic countries only Pakistan could build the atomic bomb. Its army is the strongest, and it has always formed alliances with careful thought.
Amr Ayyar:
Ha ha ha! Just watch. President Trump praises Pakistan’s leadership every day. Now the whole world should accept Pakistani wisdom and intelligence.
(A modern page from Tilism-e-Hosh Ruba)